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Has the Mortgage Industry Finally Hit Bottom?

I am going to come clean from the outset and say that, “no,” I don’t have the stones to make the call that we have indeed hit a, “bottom,” in the housing market. But I have seen a couple of things lately that lead me to believe we are at least close.

One revelation that I had recently was that consumers may have finally moved on from hoping that we will again see the market conditions experienced during the ref-boom. This dawned on me after a conversation with a client who was having particular success with a mail campaign. They attributed that success to the timing of the drop in conjunction with Bush signing into action the Housing Bill. I don’t believe that there was any correlation because if there was, we would have likely seen inquiry volumes spike in the Internet lead gen industry. But things have remained relatively flat and I think this is a good sign.

If you remember the beginning of the year when the Fed lowered interest rates for several consecutive quarters, inquiry volume and mortgage applications spiked. I think consumers still had the unrealistic expectation that the Fed rate can directly influence mortgage rates, moreover I think they unrealistically believed that the lower rates could bring back the frenzy of mortgage activity we were seeing up until a couple of years ago.

Since then we have seen even more Fed rate decreases coupled with instances of the Fed rate remaining unchanged in the face of inflation. We have also seen a major piece of sweeping legislation tailored to provide a boost to the mortgage industry. In as much time, inquiry and application volumes have remained relatively flat. I think this is a reflection of two potential things:

a) Defeat. The consumer is beaten and broken and is as unresponsive as your stoner-cousin for whom nothing would lift him off the couch.

b) Complacency. The consumer’s expectations have been re-set and they know the frenzied environment of the refi-boom is likely never to be seen again.

I believe we are seeing “B” which, while it certainly presents a more challenging arena for business growth, it is at least more realistic than consumers thinking that a 2% Fed Funds rate means they can refinance their house at 2%. Call me an optimist, but I actually think that this complacency hints at a bottom because with consumers no longer having unrealistic expectations, then maybe we in the mortgage business can get back to helping people and solving problems rather than refinancing with cash-out so that someone can finance a lavish vacation.

Another encouraging sign that I saw recently was in an article here hinting that California may be at a bottom in the realty and housing market. Like me, the author wasn’t bold enough to call an actual bottom, but he cited many indicators that provided hope.

  • “A rebound in home sales as renters become home owners”
  • “Stability in the pricing of Homes”

Specifically he claims, “Home ownership in California is growing affordable again thanks to reasonably low mortgage rates and the fall in home prices, fuelled by the firesale of foreclosed homes. As a result, home sales are picking up, foreshadowing a stabilization in home prices before year end.”

His argument is essentially, then, that since California constitutes 25% of the housing market in the US, as goes California, so goes the rest of the country.

I hope he is right. There is no doubt that we in the mortgage industry are looking for some wind for our sails. Hopefully this can provide a little of that. I, for one, feel that we may be rounding a corner. Any thoughts?

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  1. A lead buyer | Aug 13, 2008 | Reply

    Not sure we have hit the bottom.

    Lenders continue to restrict their credit policy and product offering’s to compensate (or overcompensate as even lenders who didn’t have massive credit problems are affected) for the bad decisions of previous years.

    This causes consumers to have less access to cash which causes consumers who are in loans they shouldn’t be or can’t afford to be at risk and therefore have to sell or go into foreclosure. This causes downward pressure on values, which…you guessed it causes lenders to restrict further.

    It is a self fulfilling prophesy. Until we see the lenders stop their tightening we haven’t seen a bottom and I can tell you that is a while off.

    I hope they are right however as it would make life easier for me personally but I am ready for more bad news.

  2. A Lead Buyer | Aug 13, 2008 | Reply

    Blown Mortgage had these 2 bloomberg stories linked that relate to what I said above…

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=arHaOH3zoyDY&refer=home

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=alebCtUJbRXc&refer=home

  3. bridge over tumultous waters | Aug 13, 2008 | Reply

    Don’t think we will hit bottom until the default rates peak and begin to settle back down. Maybe we’re close but they haven’t peaked quite yet

  4. SomeInsider | Aug 14, 2008 | Reply

    Lead Buyer and “Bridge,”

    Thanks for the input. I really tried not to let facts cloud my judgment when writing this piece. I had seen the two articles, too, from Blown Mortgage. What I liked about the article I referenced, and maybe I was using selective listening since we are all searching for a bottom, was the statement that home prices were apparently beginning to stabilize and home sales had been on the rise recently. The idea then is that hopefully, if home sales do continue to rise, then lenders will feel less uneasy about the marketplace as a whole, and they will loosen the overly-restrictive lending guidelines.

    Who knows who is right, but at some point something’s gotta give.

  5. A lead buyer | Aug 14, 2008 | Reply

    I understand your point of view and optimism however I think we have a ways to go before we hit a bottom. I hope you are right but as you said key behaviors need to change on the lender side before we rebound. I see restriction starting to pick up not stop in reaction to the market.

    Lets check back in 6 months and see who was correct. It will be an interesting ride until then.

  6. BootyJuice | Aug 14, 2008 | Reply

    Nope, haven’t hit bottom yet. I’d say we’ll hit the bottom around January.

  7. bridge over tumultous waters | Aug 15, 2008 | Reply

    Historically prices don’t stabilize until there are 6-8 months of inventory on the market. Not there yet. Also prices can’t stabilize when banks are taking on more properties each month than they sell.

    We may have seen most of the price drop but it ain’t over yet.Finally, fannie and freddie have announced programs that effectively will continue tightening underwriting at least until jan. 1.My guess is we are 70pct way through price drop and prices will stabilize in late 09 or early 2010.
    By then most people reading this will be working in another industry, including me

  8. Lead Critic | Aug 15, 2008 | Reply

    Booty,
    Did your magic eight ball tell January or our you using the force with that prediction?

  9. BootyJuice | Aug 15, 2008 | Reply

    Booty ALWAYS knows where the bottom is, critic.

  10. A lead buyer | Aug 15, 2008 | Reply

    booty,

    clever….

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