Evaluating LendingTree ROI
Filed Under: LendingTree
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You are probably saying to yourself, “Another post on ROI? Is this guy capable on writing about anything else?” The answer is apparently, “no.”
I did enjoy the dialogue that resulted from my last post on the ROI associated with live transfer leads, so I thought I would touch on the same topic for LendingTree leads. Like the live transfer leads, the LT longform lead is essentially a niche product. The former GetSmart brand, or short form version competes against all of the other lead providers in the space, but the LendingTree longform lead remains to be the only lead-type of its kind.
I have always referred to the LT lead as loan officer crack. LO’s can get addicted to LT leads like they are buying it from a
pusher standing on a street corner. Why do LO’s jones over an LT lead like Tyrone Biggums longing for his next fix (have to be a fan of Chappelle’s Show for this reference!)? Because they are very easy to call.
There is no mistaking it. The LT form qualifies a potential buyer like no other product on the market. The consumer fills out a virtually completed 1003. They give their social and submit to have their credit pulled. The form is more than twice as long as the standard short-form lead. Consumers that complete the form are virtually 100% committed to the mortgage inquiry process and returns are essentially non-existent. Based on this, it is obviously the perfect product, right? C’mon, you should know better than that…
There is no question that the LendingTree product has a tremendous amount of value, but the question is, is the value commensurate with the price? LT’s pricing is as unique as their product. As all of you most likely know, there is a front-end fee called the, “Transmit Fee,” which is like the cost-per-lead fee all other short-form providers charge. There is also a back-end fee, should the loan turn into a funded loan, known as a “Success Fee,” which is sometimes north of $1000. What I would like to look at in this piece is the inherent value in the lead and whether or not it is worth the price.
Value isn’t always derived solely from ROI. There are other intangibles that need to be realistically considered. For example, I have a client that has traditionally had success with LendingTree leads. So much so, that there have been no less than 4 companies started by loan officers that used to work for this company. These spin-offs, however, typically can’t afford the $15,000 outlay that LendingTree requires for new long-form clients, so they aren’t able to purchase LT leads. So for this client of mine, the fact that they are on the LT network is good for recruiting and LO retention as the spin-offs frequently try to recruit from their former employer. No matter how compelling of a case that I could potentially come up with valuing my leads over an LT lead, it would never outweigh the value of retaining top talent. So if I were to write a piece about the value of the long form lead and not mention intangibles such as this, it would be disingenuous. That said, I do feel like there has been a concerted movement in the market away from long-form leads. There are several companies that I know traditionally bought almost nothing but LT leads that now see that as a smaller, if not insignificant, part of their business. The reason is simply costs.
The long form lead is very expensive for LendingTree to generate. I wouldn’t begin to know the cost per form, but I can certainly arrive at a decent guess. Let’s look at it this way, for a good short-form provider, you would typically see about a 5% completion rate. In other words, to get 5 consumers to complete a short-form inquiry you need to get 100 people to land on the form. I would imagine, and this is absolutely a guess, that due to how cumbersome the long form is to complete, that that number would be no more than half of that of the short form. So, in order to get roughly 2.5 complete forms, you need 100 people to at least begin completing a form. LT probably generates about 2000 - 3000 unique, inquires per day (again, another pure guess). That would mean that they would need to get 80,000 – 120,000 unique visits to their form every day. With the ever-rising costs of off-line and on-line advertising, this cost has to be astronomical. And since LendingTree, like every other lead company, is not in this business for charity, those costs need to be passed on to the clients, along with margins, in hopes of making a profit. Now let’s open up the hood a little bit and understand the costs associated with a LendingTree long-form lead.
As we discussed, typically there is a front end cost, the Transmit Fee, of anywhere from $25-$45, so let’s take an average of $35. On the back end, once a loan closes, there is a Success Fee that ranges, by my understanding, of about $800 to $1100, depending on the size of the loan. But let’s take the low end of the spectrum at $800. Below is a simple little calculator that I built to compare LT long-form leads vs. the standard short form counterpart.
I am making several assumptions for the sake of argument in this analysis. Specifically I am assuming:
- 5% LT conversion rate
- 2.5% short form conversion rate
- 1000 leads per month
- Average loan size of $200,000 and average fee income of 1.5 points

There are several key things to point out in this analysis and I have color coded each to hopefully make it easy to follow if you are not a numbers junky like I am.
1. At the top in Yellow, you can see that the cost per Funded Loan is about 40% higher for the LendingTree lead.
2. But, because of the higher conversion ratio inherent with the long form leads your production each month is doubled, 50 loans per month with LT vs. 25 with the short form leads labeled in Green.
3. Also, because of the higher production, your monthly gross income is 2x that of the short form lead, but because there is a success fee associated with each closed loan, monthly fees are 3x higher (This is noted in the Blue boxes) too thereby dramatically cutting into the net (noted in red).
4. So, even though your gross with LT is twice as much as the short form, your net increase in profits is only 25% higher. In plain English, you are spending twice as much to only make 25% more.
5. And lastly, there is the ROI in Yellow once again. Obviously there is a dramatic difference with the ROI. You are doubling your ROI in this scenario with short form leads.
So, conceivably, you could buy in this scenario 2000 short form leads per month to double your production to 50 loans per month – equivalent to the LT leads – and still spend 25% less on short form leads than what it would cost for the equivalent of 1000 long form leads.
Again, I am not proposing to not buy LT leads. The company essentially invented this industry and their leads should continue to be a component to your marketing portfolio. Also, I completely realize that I did not include operating costs in these figures. The net incomes and ROI percentages would certainly be less when you factor in that whole… paying-out-commissions, phone-bills, rent, air conditioning, etc. Certainly that is going to affect profits and ROI. But it would affect each side equally and I didn’t want to cloud the analysis with too many numbers as that can sometimes make normal people unlike myself squeamish.
But for those shops that have resisted dipping your toes in the waters of short form leads, hopefully this will give you an idea as to what you may be missing. Short form leads are a different animal than LT leads, but the potential is clearly there. It can result in a significant cultural change if you supplement or supplant LT leads with short-form leads. But the economics to support that move are there in a dramatic way. If you feel like giving it a try, drop me an email, I’d love to help you get there.
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A lead buyer | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
Your short form analysis is cut off and you cant see the #’s. If you view the image only you can just not on this form…
SomeInsider | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
I can see everything fine. Are you still having the same problem?
Lead Critic | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
A Lead Buyer,
I can see it too…what browser are you using?
SomeInsider,
Great analysis!
A lead buyer | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
Firefox.
We are a buyer of Lendingtree leads and it continues to be our largest channel and very profitable. It all comes down to how well you can convert it. In the space I play in I would find it hard to be on their network at 5% as well.
Mark | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
I’ve been following your posts recently, and I’m curious about how these ROI numbers compare with the ROI you can typically expect from the live transfer leads. If you spend the same amount of money on live transfers as you do on short form leads, what ROI should you expect? If it’s close, it seems that the live transfer would be a great solution because of the time savings. If you can expect the same level of return with less effort, it would seem logical to at least try the live transfers. Any thoughts?
SomeInsider | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
A Lead Buyer,
You are absolutely right. Obviously the math becomes far more favorable for the LT leads if you can drive a funding ratio north of 5%, or for any source for that matter. It has been my experience, though, that lately funding ratios that high are very rare. So this only speaks very well of you and how well you seem to run your shop!
SomeInsider | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
Mark,
I actually did a couple of posts on that recently here and here. Take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks!
SomeInsider | Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
sorry, hyperlinks didn’t work. Paste the following URL’s to your browser:
http://blog.leadcritic.com/live-transfer-leads/are-live-transfers-worth-the-premium
and
http://blog.leadcritic.com/live-transfer-leads/are-live-transfers-worth-the-premium-redux
Nick | Jun 25, 2008 | Reply
I know its not quantifiable, but you have to assess a value to the morale factor found in the enhanced contact rates and improved degrees in recption in the LT forms.
You must also consider the value of operating the only “policed” network, and the insulation that provides from the predatory practices and bait schemes that impact your margins and capture rates on standard short form leads.
Based on the comparison above you would have to be in the double digit capture rate to return better than 3-1 with the LT leads and that would be quite difficult to accomplish, much less maintain.
So on the surface I would be inclined to have to assess more value to LT long form leads, but inside I just can’t digest paying a back end fee for something to do exactly what it is I am already paying an upfront fee for…give me a lead that I can convert.
Maybe I’m wrong…
SomeInsider | Jun 26, 2008 | Reply
Spot on, Nick. The math probaby WAS there back when LT only had a $15 transmit fee. But now, once you open up the hood, it really appears that the ROI isn’t there unless you are absolutely knocking the cover off the ball with regard to funding ratios.